Thank you and questions
July 14, 2007 on 8:38 pm | In Questions and Comments | 3 CommentsHi Anthony,
Thank you for writing your book and sharing your life’s adventure. I’ve been searching for something…didn’t know what…but I think I found it after reading your book. I stumbled upon your book by sheer accident at the Chapters bookstore in Ontario Canada. Read it that night from cover to cover and have re-read it twice now (did I say I purchased the book on Wednesday of this week!) I have applied to and been accepted by Commission Junction, rejected by Advertising.com and waiting to hear back from AzoogleAds.com. There’s a few extra steps and paperwork to fill out (a little thing called taxes) but I hope everything goes well. My account at Google Adwords and MS adCentre are open and awaiting my first ad.
I’d also like to thank you for creating this website/blog. You have gone above and beyond by giving us access to you directly. This is an amazing service you’re providing and I’m confident with your help, we can all become successful affiliate marketers. Dare I say make Affiliate Millions?
Now to my questions…
You talk about having multiple ads within an Ad Group within a campaign grouped by relevance. I’m a little confused by a couple of things. If I have multiple ads, why would I use the same keywords/phrases for them all? Are you suggesting multiple ads for the same affiliate program (not specific products within that program?) If so, why?
I’m having trouble figuring out how much to spend on my first ad campaign. I completely understand the ‘don’t set your maximum budget higher that the amount you are actually prepared to spend.’ What I’m unsure of is what is a good actual minimum amount to get a reasonable barometer of that ad. Is $500 for a month enough…too little? You mention in one of you examples a $3000 limit. This is more than I’m willing to loose. I’m hoping I’m not already limiting my chances for success.
Finally…although I’m sure I will have other questions in the future…do you have any old successful ads that are no longer running that you could share with us?
Again thanks for…well…everything.
Best Regards,
Michael
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Michael,
Thank you for your kind words, and for purchasing my book.
As for multiple ads within an ad group, the main reason for this is to compare ad performance. Wriing better ads is the real key to success in this business. If you have a few different ads, periodically you can edit the lowest performing ad, trying to make improvements. You would always leave the highest performing ad alone as a control ad against which to test the others. Eventually, one of your new ads will outperform the others and become the new control ad. I should mention, though, that if the difference in perfomance is relatively small, it might be better to ad a new ad rather than edit an ad that performs almost as well as the control ad.
A second reason for having multiple ads inside one ad group might also be that some ads will perform better for different keywords, even in a related group. If you are using an ad rotation optimizer function, which Google and most others provide for, the right ad should show most often for each keyword. If you have a particularly large ad group, with dozens or even hundreds of keywords, you might also want to consider having more than just three or four different ads to help you gain any possible advantage that the different ads might provide for some keywords.
As for the maximum budget question, I get a lot of questions asking for a formula of some kind, but I am very loathe to do so. The bottom line is, higher maximum budgets can help get you statistically significant data quicker, but they also increase your risk of losing more money faster. It is a very personal decision. Add to that the fact that different industries tend to be harder/easier, cheaper/more expensive than others, and dollar figures are hard to come by.
The best I can do is to suggest you start with a conservative amount you feel very comfortable with, and then if the results are coming to slowly, gradually increase your budget and perhaps your bids as well, until you are collecting data at a rate you are happy with.
As for $3000 budgets, those examples are for campaigns that already have proven they make comfortably more per click than they cost. Once you know you you are making money, the budget maximum can be slowly raised to whatever amount you can afford to put in, without much fear of losing money. I have occassionally started campaigns with very high daily budgets, but this was when I was already making huge amounts on other campaigns, and could afford the risk. Also, this was only with campaigns that I had reason to beleive – from similar campaigns’ results – would be very profitable. This early in your career, it would be crazy to set a budget that high.
As for previously successful ads, I believe I have some examples in the book, but I don’t like to give out a lot of them because, even though program term changes or other factors may make a profitable ad unprofitable, their is always the possibility – and this has happened to me a few times – that future changes will make the ad valuable again one day. If you would like, though, I’d be happy to look at any ad of yours, and suggest some improvements. Just email me at AffiliateSupport@AffiliateMillions.com.
Tony
Comment by Administrator — July 15, 2007 #
Hi Tony,
Thanks for responding!
I think I better understand the multiple ads in one ad group; advertise the same program but use different angles, calls to action, different filters in your 2nd line of the ad (filters being words to weed out people) etc. Monitor and tweak as necessary.
I’ve taken your advise and started out with a budget I’m comfortable with and we’ll see how it goes.
Here’s the stats on my 1st ad after ~24 hours;
Google AdWords;
$20 daily max
$0.60 max bid
2.5 avg pos
9 active keywords
2 inactive keywords (cost too much)
3 negative words
25111 impression
88 clicks
0.43% CTR
$0.42 avg CPC
$36.50 total cost
Affiliate Program;
$81.47 3 month EPC
$75.46 7 day EPC
5 bars network earnings
1 lead
0 sales
$0.51 commissions
I’m going to give it a total of 72 hours before I shut it down. I’m not going to get discouraged by this 1st campaign!
Best Regards,
Michael
Comment by Michael Robert — July 16, 2007 #
Michael,
The first thing I should point out is the short time frame (24 hours) in which these results were acquired. You may well have commissions that are yet to be reported.
I advise you to wait until your returns are fully reported. That can take up to 24 hours from your last clicks (more if batch processed), plus whatever time length the referral period for this affiliate program happens to be. A week is common, but they range from days to months. Check out the actual program terms for this program in the CJ interface.
If you are spending more per day than you are comfortable with keeping up for this long a period (whatever the referral period is), you can turn off the campaign after a few days, and then wait out the referral period. Make sure you get enough clicks before shutting it down to accurately judge the program first, however.
Tony
Comment by Administrator — July 20, 2007 #